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Randem

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 08:50:02 PM »
If you image the drive to an IDE drive it should work just fine. It will probably fail booting on the first attempt but the regular driver should be installed after that. Just remember to change the drive type in BIOS to IDE.

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 08:40:53 PM »
That all sound logical.
 
No other SATA connector. Both of them broke off. I guess I am left with either of two options then.
 
1. Get a couple SATA pcb through hole connectors and solder them back onto the MB
2. Look for an identical replacement MB
 
What about imaging the partition to an IDE PATA drive since this board has a 2 channel PATA port. Shouldn't that work? I have tried it already but the XP cd doesn't even pick up the partition in recovery console or in the install portion. I think I am going to do a low level format and try different image tools. Unless there is something I am not doing right.
 
I even checked into USMT just to migrate user account data but the only one that will extract that data from nonbootable system partition is v3.01 and the only one that will export the data to the new XP partition once I reload XP is v4.01 and the two versions are not compatible which make it a non solution.
 
This experience makes me wnat to use Linux all the more except for only app which only port to Windows.
 
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 05:26:19 PM »
Ok, I understand now. Booting from the drive connected to the USB will not work unless the OS was installed thru the USB in the first place and that will not work very well either.
 
USB booting is mainly used for flash drives and such not large media drives. If it was to somehow boot from the USB drive it would be so terribly slow it would not be worth it. From my understanding the swap file would cause you so much trouble and BSOD it is not an option.
 
You will have registry errors and such for in the registry there are settings for C: and I do not believe the USB drive will be noticed as C:.
 
Most motherboards have two SATA connections. Does yours only have one?

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 05:17:04 PM »
Answers to your questions:
 
1. Moved absolutely everything. The only thing different in the system is the older metal case and PS that originally came in the case I moved everything into.
2. Yes it worked just as it did before for a few months until the SATA connectors snapped off the MB. As soon as they snapped off and I realized I couldn't use SATA any longer I plugged the drive into a USB dongle after trying to connect it to a PCI combo card and then it produced the BSOD.
3. There were no broken cables. I know I mentioned, 'SATA cable breaking' in my post but meant to say, 'SATA pcb through whole connectors breaking' that decided to not be part of the family any longer.
4. Yes, it boots to any cd/dvd I insert. UBCD, Linux, Windows XP disk, anything.
5. It was on regular IDE to begin with and the only other setting was RAID and I tried that for giggles with no change in problem.
6. The image I have was taken after the BSOD issue presented itself and I don't know how good it is.
 
After some reading, unless I am wrong or misunderstand what I read, upon installing, Windows tends to attach drive controller drivers that control the boot drive to system files and registry. Even though USB is plug and play, I am not sure the system is adjusting to the XP partition being booted from another controller such as USB as apposed to the original SATA. Or trying the PCI combo card before installing the driver for said card messed up something with the drivers associated with the boot partition. Not sure and even if this is so I am not sure how to correct it. It seams that taking a drive with a boot XP partition on it from SATA to another controller on  the same board like USB or a PCI combo card is seen by the system much like taking it to another system with a different MB setup. I am not sure though.
 
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 10:57:06 AM »
Aloha richman,
 
I am really uncertain on just what the issues are. You mentioned that you moved the guts to an older box. Please clarify:
 
1 - Does this mean you moved the motherboard and all components or just the components to another motherboard in the old box. It is hard to understand just where your problem appears.
 
2 - After the move, was the computer working at all.
 
3 - If it was working and you have replaced the broken cables with good ones.  
 
4 - Does your computer boot properly using a CD/DVD?
 
5 - Have you attempted setting the boot process in the BIOS to regular IDE booting.
 
6 - If you have a backup image of your drive, have you tried an over-the-top installation of XP?
 
many more questions...

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 09:30:25 PM »
If anyone has any hints or clues I would be grateful.
 
This issue started after moving the guts of a system to an older box and noticing the SATA connectors  
 
being loose. The pc worked for some monthes but with slave drive read/write/ error. Remembering  
 
that the connectors were loose and could be causing the problem I checked them. I noticed that they  
 
were at a 90 degree angle. I bent them back a few times over period of time but noticed the last time  
 
ultimately they both ended up breaking off.
 
Next, tried a pci combo card SATA/Firewire/USB/IDE and after trying to connect the system drive and  
 
booting, ending in the BSOD 7B error I read the documentation for the card and noticed that it said  
 
that if you connect a boot drive to it before installing the drivers that it could render the drive  
 
unbootable.
 
Next tried hooking up to a USB cable and still get the BSOD.
 
The system never gets into user mode. At least I figure the login screen is one of the first things to  
 
load and I never see that.
 
I don't know if the SATA cable breaking or the Combo card install without the driver is the Holey Grail  
 
but after MUP.SYS, I am not sure if drivers load or if if the USB needs a special driver to boot a system  
 
partition or what.
 
Fixes Tried:  
1. Fixboot
2. Safemode freezes at MUP.SYS
3. Last know good config or any other boot option does not work.
4. Reset BIOS to defualt and jumperd it to original factory.  
5. Tried imaging with clonezilla but the new image created on different target usually get some kind of  
 
PXE thing and DHCP message but culminates in a non-boot.
6. Tried troubleshooting hardware, IDE cables, the whole 9 yards.
7. dRan chkdsk /r
8. Tried repair instal but when it reboots to finish install if errors again before the reboot finishes.
 
It obviously knows where the partition and system files are since the original partition shows the  
 
Windows XP load screen so the only thing I can think is driver corruption but don't know how to trouble  
 
shoot or fix them without it booting.